The block editor is a net negative. Most plugins aren’t compatible with it and this isn’t something anybody asked for. Gutenberg, being out for YEARS now, is still nowhere near ready to use. Especially not as a default builder.
Now, it seems WordPress has entirely removed the Customizer panel. I used it mostly for the initial setup of the website and the custom CSS, with the excellent tool included, but it seems they’ve removed all of that and I have to add CSS through the block editor now, which has NO features. No syntax highlighting, very simple error-checking… and I have no idea where my previous custom CSS went. It’s still applying, I just can’t find it anymore. How am I supposed to edit it now? It’s gonna stay active forever if I can’t even remove it.
WordPress… what are you doing. Stop making these changes nobody wants. Nobody wants Gutenberg, nobody wants to be locked into learning how your block editor works when it’s not even compatible with most plugins. It doesn’t even render properly between the editor and the actual page, it’s absolutely not WYSIWYG.
What we want are modern features to be hard-coded into WordPress. I shouldn’t have to download the ONE plugin that allows me to do a megamenu (a very simple one that sucks to edit) on the new block editor when there’s dozens already out for the previous menus WHICH WERE MUCH FASTER TO WORK WITH IF YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING!
Yes, you can go back to “normal” WordPress if you install a site builder and change from the default theme. But it’s a bit late for that now, I would have to essentially redo most of my website. I guess the silver lining is, if you haven’t switched to a block editor theme yet, DON’T. NEVER.
You need to centralize everything I can’t understate this. I shouldn’t have to open 5 different pages to do ONE thing on all of them. I use the new editor with Woocommerce and to their credit it does some stuff out the box, but they still need to work on it. Stuff that should be super normal in shops is simply not supported.
I updated WordPress or Woocommerce the other day, because, you know, there’s always hundreds of updates to do for your themes and plugins (instead of the system allowing you package them in bulk and not receive the notification every time), and it added a fucking cart icon to my menu. Despite me already having one set. Don’t update my live website without my approval what the actual fuck is this??? It’s my site, not yours. Don’t touch it without my permission.
I’m seriously moving away from WordPress for my shop once I’m able to. I used to know WordPress really well, but not anymore. I tried learning the block editor but half the tutorials you find are either outdated or still for the “old” version of WordPress. We are in a total blackout situation and can’t work like this.
Stop it. Stop this nonsense. Stop pushing things on an entire community of developers and users that nobody cares about. Focus on making your CMS faster because I can assure you, I actively try to avoid loading the block editor.
Edit: I can’t fucking believe this. You can bring back the customizer… if you type it in the URL bar (/wp-admin/customize.php). I sincerely can’t fucking believe any of this. I’m moving away from WordPress as soon as I’m able to.
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Just use the Classic Editor plugin.
You can disable the block editor and enjoy the classic experience.
I wrote a block plugin called “pattern css” that lets you add css to any block or pattern and it optimizes the css, has syntax highlighting, and basic error handling.
This is better than using the customizer because it only loads when the block loads, is scoped to the block, and works with synced patterns too. You can’t do something this advanced with the classic editor. The block editor is very powerful once you learn how to build with it.
your loss, boss
Gutenberg is a mess. I tried learning it last summer, and it is just so un-intuitive for something that they clearly tried to make simple. That and they keep changing how it looks and names of things, that the tutorials you find, tho max a year old, is already too old.
I understand your pain. I totally agree. The greed of the WordPress leadership destroys their rationality, if any.
They brought a decent, fair and polyvalent product down, destroying the community on the way, probably because some overpaid ignorant sociopathic, narcissistic marketeer thought, for totally false reasons, that WordPress should move towards Wix and Weebly
They f*cked up. A lot of people we’re already expressing their concerns about that during the Wordcamp in Berlin years ago.
They don’t listen to their community. They milk it to death.
But hey, Mullenweg still thinks he’s the one holding all the knowledge.
For my clients, I started to build custom themes again:
1. I’m in total control
2. No need for 7000045621 plugins
3. Quality is way better
4. Server is stable and fast
5. No need for stressing with “we can do everything “ page builder blocks or Oh Lord Full Site Editing
And last but not least: client are happy, I’m happy and I don’t have to deal with that idiocracy anymore.
Don’t know why but this gives me Kevin Geary’s rants vibes. Kevin, is that you?
On a more serious note, just disable that crap. I use https://wordpress.org/plugins/disable-gutenberg/ on every site.
I use Bricks with the GutenBricks plugin to make client friendly Gutenberg blocks. Everybody wins.
For me Gutenberg is the next best thing since television. Lets say you have a ACF group with custom fields. You will not know where the fields will show. Consider Blocks as visual ACF groups
Grab a coffee/tea get comfortable and read this to the end. I promise there is some potentially helpful information for you despite initial trajectory.
> Stop it. Stop this nonsense. Stop pushing things on an entire community of developers and users that nobody cares about. Focus on making your CMS faster because I can assure you, I actively try to avoid loading the block editor.
No one is pushing anything on you there are a bazillion ways to do things on WordPress pick what works best for you.
> I can’t with WordPress anymore… what is even the point of the block editor?
Many people love the block editor. Others don’t.
Many people love Page Builders many people don’t. Your experience and my experience is not the community experience however. You can belong to a part of the I hate Gutenberg community and that’s fine. Just spend more time on learning what works for you and hone in that skill.
> I have no idea where my previous custom CSS went. It’s still applying, I just can’t find it anymore. How am I supposed to edit it now? It’s gonna stay active forever if I can’t even remove it.
Appearence > Editor > Styles
– Click the pencil icon on the left pane next to the eye icon.
– Scroll down on the right Styles pane
– Additional CSS
Perhaps it’s best not to jump the gun with the hard convictions.
> WordPress… what are you doing. Stop making these changes nobody wants. Nobody wants Gutenberg, nobody wants to be locked into learning how your block editor works when it’s not even compatible with most plugins. It doesn’t even render properly between the editor and the actual page, it’s absolutely not WYSIWYG.
Again your opinion defers to many others but no one is locking you into anything.
> What we want are modern features to be hard-coded into WordPress. I shouldn’t have to download the ONE plugin that allows me to do a megamenu
– Many don’t/need a mega menu so adding that by default is unnecessary from a dev standpoint imho. Thats why customisation plugins exist.
– You can make a mega menu without plugins
>Yes, you can go back to “normal” WordPress if you install a site builder and change from the default theme. But it’s a bit late for that now, I would have to essentially redo most of my website. I guess the silver lining is, if you haven’t switched to a block editor theme yet, DON’T. NEVER.
Making uniformed decisions (in any part of life) is generally not a good idea.
> Don’t update my live website without my approval what the actual fuck is this??? It’s my site, not yours. Don’t touch it without my permission.
If you get hacked and have ad for enlarging your schlong on your home page you’ll probably shout at the devs for leaving an open security hole too right?
Automatic updates for security have been enabled for 11 years. It is self explanatory. There is far more pitfalls from having an exploitable vulnerability that a second cart icon.
> I updated WordPress or Woocommerce the other day, because, you know, there’s always hundreds of updates to do for your themes and plugins (instead of the system allowing you package them in bulk and not receive the notification every time), and it added a fucking cart icon to my menu. Despite me already having one set.
WooCommerce had a critical security patch I’m assuming that’s what you are talking about.
I have about 40 WooCommerce stores that got that update (amongst all other updates automatically). I’ve never had it change my styles or add a cart icon ever. I’ve seen stuff like this happen when people use custom classes hooks etc. that the core version don’t know to be aware of. I.e third party add on incompatibilities.
You can turn off notifications if you don’t like them. You can also disable all automatic updates if you like (strictly not advisable for security patches).
> We are in a total blackout situation and can’t work like this. Stop it. Stop this nonsense. Stop pushing things on an entire community of developers and users that nobody cares about.
Tsk. Yet again. You ≠ We ≠ Me
Take a breather you are clearly flustered. I get it change is sometimes icky and weird. But Twenty Twenty Four isn’t that bad just needs some hands on discovery.
But having said that it also might not be for you if so just switch to whatever you like. You can still use the block builder with another theme and get your beloved customizer back. You can even use the [classic editor plugin](https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/) to have both block builder and classic enabled on different posts/pages. This way you can leave what you’ve done as is and do things a different way moving forward.
Even moving to an entirely different option like a page builder is only going to expand your horizons. We’ve all messed up and had to redo many a site over the years and most times it’s been for the better.
If you don’t want to change your stance and want a simple way to make things work AS IS just grab Yellow Pencil or Microthemer and you’ll be fine.
Good luck!
Nah. I moved fully to block editor. Suits my clients and agency just fine. Remember. Someone new experiencing it doesn’t have predisposed ideas. So they can just crack on. I had to go through a learning curve. Now with acf and guttenberg there isn’t anything we can’t do.
> I’m seriously moving away from WordPress for my shop once I’m able to. I used to know WordPress really well, but not anymore. I tried learning the block editor but half the tutorials you find are either outdated or still for the “old” version of WordPress. We are in a total blackout situation and can’t work like this.
You are not pushed to use it.
Install Undrscores theme (or even 2017) and ClassicEditor (or DisableGutenberg) and enjoy your WP life. Or maybe you prefer “hybrids” like GeneratePress+GenerateBlocks!? Page Builder, perhaps: Bricks, BreakDance etc.
WP can be adjusted to your workflow, you’re not bound to use FSE theme.
Classic Editor + Carbon Fields is all you’ll ever need.