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I recently interviewed at what seemed to be a very slick company that is well-established in our area.
They do about 50% WordPress and 50% .Net/C# websites, and a fair amount of them too. Pretty surprised to hear that they do not use version control. They had attempted to trial TFS in the past but abandoned it, so everything is manual.
I pretty much live and breathe git on the command line. Too much of a red flag or no?
Yes, big red flag. Don’t work with them.
More red flags than a Chinese Olympic victory parade
I agree. If they are doing custom-coded anything it should be in a VCS.
If you do not use version control you do not develop. “GIT” is a must. “Subversion” is a plus! We are more than eight years outside of this “trend”. Anyone who is serious uses version control. It’s an easy must have along with an IDE and other comforts, you can’t program without it (at least you shouldn’t).
Offer to sort it all out for them? Otherwise dont do it, too messy and you’ll lose sites and code.
It’s gonna be entertaining, let’s say that
The people saying “don’t work with them” are being lame. Ignore that until you’ve assessed the situation.
1. How much development are they really doing? A lot of companies aren’t really doing a ton of custom work on their marketing assets. Is this a “maintain the website and toss up some marketing landing pages” job? Or are you doing legit custom themes and plugins? If it’s the former, it may not be totally necessary (or at least not an outright red flag).
2. How many developers are actively contributing to the WordPress website? Is it just one? Then version control, while not using it is sloppy, still not an outright red flag.
3. What role would you be hired for? Would you be in a position to influence the use of version control? Would you be the sole or lead developer (at least for the WordPress stuff)?
**part of every good developer’s job is process improvement. Consider the fact you could take the position and help them improve their processes, reduce liabilities, and mitigate potential disaster**. Make a case for it to leadership/decision makers.
If you can do it without ruffling feathers and motivate others to use it, then you’ve also shown leadership ability and secured yourself a fancy resume bullet.
The lazy “don’t work there/run” responses in an outrageously bad job market where it’s difficult to even get an interview in tech/marketing is some absurd shit.
Take the job and be proactive. Or if they’re paying $200k/yr and downright refuse to use version control, just suck it up, do the work, and treat yourself to a Porsche.
If you get an offer just take it and keep applying? They have a good reputation which will help your resume.
What an opportunity to change a companies fate! If they offer, take the job. Bring source control to them and get them on the right path. Steer them away from ruin. I task you with this.
I came in to a small agency that has no version control, I proposed the plan to implement it, how to roll it out, train people on it and the benefits. Got managers buy in and support.
There must be an old guy behaves as the god/creator of the code from scratch there. Be ready to face the final answer of your questions as the memory man from the matrix. I created here.
Run fast and absolutely do not look back.
This is just the first red flag *so far*
Do you guys think that’s their only issue?
First of all they don’t know that this is a big issue in the industry. Second, they took a lot of bad decissions in the past. I don’t even want to look at the code-base.
I don’t even know how to work without git. How do you even know what files did YOU change, let alone others?