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I’m a full-stack web dev, and I desperately don’t want to have to learn PHP to be able to build quick themes for clients. I prefer to use Elementor, and I know the gripes about how page builders have slow performance or baggage tied to them. But is there a page builder you all would recommend for a web dev who DESPERATELY doesn’t want to learn PHP that isn’t necessarily as heavy or is more performant in place of Elementor?
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Bricks and Oxygen, join their Facebook and there are discussion on performance where AutomaticCSS creator has recently share his video and articles.
Really, if you really doesn’t want to handle PHP, I don’t thing you can get far except relying on plugins… you still hoping your clients will not ask for a custom features you will need to at least handle WordPress code in PHP. Other rose, how are you going to fix the malwares or bugs that are written in PHP?
If you are looking for similar experience, Astro.dev has a great DX and can be used with headless CMS.
Bricks, alternatively Gutenberg with a lightweight theme and a good block collection (e.g. Kadence Blocks)
I’ve been a hardcore Elementor user for years. Was on their agency package ($199) before they shipped their new extortionate price plans, was grandfathered into the old prices so I’ve been trying so hard to stay with with them.
But I recently discovered Bricks, and I have to say, the code it outputs is ***so much cleaner***.
Oxygen
Really been digging Breakdance the more I use it. At like 10 months out, it’s pretty beastly. By this time next year, it’ll be even better.
Bricks is really good as well
I don’t use page builders. I’m a dev not data entry.
Question: Is the client going to be maintaining? Adding new content? Or you?
The majority of suggestions in this thread are all developer oriented. But the best outcome for a website is one which meets the client’s needs in the long run as well as yours.
Elementor is resource intensive, particularly in the back end while editing (the editor is a resource pig). But it is also client friendly vs Oxygen (to name one popular alternative listed in this thread). And despite what is being said by some it is usually no more difficult to obtain excellent page speed scores with Elementor then any other visual builder.
Ethically your course of action should be dictated by the best long term needs of your client. Hence my question at the start.
GeneratePress/GenerateBlocks
Clean, easy, fast, good documentation
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Full stack dev that only uses page builders? What?
Generatepress
Honestly I felt like this before. I had experience in Python and JavaScript only. Just dive in. Oh, also you can make use of the wp-api and build your templates with html and JS that’s always an option too
Gutnberg with some CSS works nice . Plugins for the PHP u need and maybe chatgpt to make some Code snippets. Thats my way till i master php
I would recommend oxygen, Brics, or builderious. I do not have any experience with builderious. I mention it because it is brought up in online forums.
You will need to know CSS quite a bit in order to use any of the three. Otherwise, you will be limiting yourself considerably.
I use oxygen mainly as of now, and I particularly love its code block element. Oxxygen generates clean code and is usually much performant all yhings considered.
You can also jave a look at webflow, but it has its own hosting and is quite expensive. I have not used it personally, but again, it is quite popular with devs online.